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An estimate on the operating costs of the shop; assuming only the office, kitchen and lobby are heated and cooled (total of ~479 sqft), and at 0.5 cents/BTU/month and 24 BTUs to heat/cool 1 sqft, makes for $57.48/mo.  Given the warehouse is uninsulated and will be cooled by a vent fan (currently 700 watts) or spot heated by personal space heaters (~1500 watts per person, assuming 3 people inside the garage in the winter) for 32 hours out of the week.  We are looking at the most a ~$25/mo heating cost in the winter in the garage area.  From historical billing data on the 203 Brown Street shop, we are looking at ~$50/mo to operate lights and gear.  Assuming this value is the same for the 5 Points Location, we are looking at an operating cost of $135/mo.  At a conservative estimate, per the proceedings of the 4/19 Move Meeting, the 5 Points operating costs can be assumed to be the same as the 203 Brown Street operating costs.
 
An estimate on the operating costs of the shop; assuming only the office, kitchen and lobby are heated and cooled (total of ~479 sqft), and at 0.5 cents/BTU/month and 24 BTUs to heat/cool 1 sqft, makes for $57.48/mo.  Given the warehouse is uninsulated and will be cooled by a vent fan (currently 700 watts) or spot heated by personal space heaters (~1500 watts per person, assuming 3 people inside the garage in the winter) for 32 hours out of the week.  We are looking at the most a ~$25/mo heating cost in the winter in the garage area.  From historical billing data on the 203 Brown Street shop, we are looking at ~$50/mo to operate lights and gear.  Assuming this value is the same for the 5 Points Location, we are looking at an operating cost of $135/mo.  At a conservative estimate, per the proceedings of the 4/19 Move Meeting, the 5 Points operating costs can be assumed to be the same as the 203 Brown Street operating costs.
  
Tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday, 4/19/11) we will be meeting at the current shop, at 6:30 pm, to take a field trip to the [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=schiffmann+and+stevens+&aq=&sll=34.744998,-86.579175&sspn=0.007352,0.013937&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Stevens+Ave+NE+%26+Schiffman+St+NE,+Huntsville,+Madison,+Alabama+35801&ll=34.745015,-86.579175&spn=0.007317,0.013937&t=h&z=17 newly proposed shop] (yellowish warehouse on the corner). Afterwards there will be a vote. I want to personally encourage everyone to come out and see the new place, as I feel the pictures don't really do it justice.
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Tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday, 4/19/11) we will be meeting at the current shop, at 6:30 pm, to take a field trip to the newly proposed shop ([http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=414+Stevens+Ave,+Huntsville,+AL+35801&aq=&sll=34.744813,-86.579386&sspn=0.012448,0.01929&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=414+Stevens+Ave+NE,+Huntsville,+Alabama+35801&t=h&z=16 414 Stevens Ave, Huntsville, AL 35801], Yellowish Warehouse on the corner of Schiffmann and Stevens). Afterwards there will be a vote. I want to personally encourage everyone to come out and see the new place, as I feel the pictures don't really do it justice.
  
 
This is something that has to happen rather quickly. There is a meeting Wednesday afternoon 4/20/11 with our current landlord and we need to know how people feel.  There will also be a short discussion after the vote, if this passes, to determine if there is any kind of sweet-spot-deal to stay where we are.  That is, if the current landlord wants to negotiate much lower than what we are paying now.
 
This is something that has to happen rather quickly. There is a meeting Wednesday afternoon 4/20/11 with our current landlord and we need to know how people feel.  There will also be a short discussion after the vote, if this passes, to determine if there is any kind of sweet-spot-deal to stay where we are.  That is, if the current landlord wants to negotiate much lower than what we are paying now.

Revision as of 11:07, 20 April 2011

From various notes on the 5Pts Shop:

The 5pts shop including the loft is 4012 sqft (costing $850/mo). 1st Floor is 2660 sqft, Loft is 1352 sqft. It is larger than our current shop. It could eat our shop and still have room.

There is A/C and heat in the office. There is a small kitchen area. 2 bathrooms. There is also a sink in the loft. One of the bathrooms has a shower. There is no A/C/ heating unit in the actual warehouse area. But the current tenant says he was using a kerosene heater. We may be able to even negotiate this issue. Another con is a lack of insulation which could offset the savings in rent, but we can get a history of utility bills to assess that.

An estimate on the operating costs of the shop; assuming only the office, kitchen and lobby are heated and cooled (total of ~479 sqft), and at 0.5 cents/BTU/month and 24 BTUs to heat/cool 1 sqft, makes for $57.48/mo. Given the warehouse is uninsulated and will be cooled by a vent fan (currently 700 watts) or spot heated by personal space heaters (~1500 watts per person, assuming 3 people inside the garage in the winter) for 32 hours out of the week. We are looking at the most a ~$25/mo heating cost in the winter in the garage area. From historical billing data on the 203 Brown Street shop, we are looking at ~$50/mo to operate lights and gear. Assuming this value is the same for the 5 Points Location, we are looking at an operating cost of $135/mo. At a conservative estimate, per the proceedings of the 4/19 Move Meeting, the 5 Points operating costs can be assumed to be the same as the 203 Brown Street operating costs.

Tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday, 4/19/11) we will be meeting at the current shop, at 6:30 pm, to take a field trip to the newly proposed shop (414 Stevens Ave, Huntsville, AL 35801, Yellowish Warehouse on the corner of Schiffmann and Stevens). Afterwards there will be a vote. I want to personally encourage everyone to come out and see the new place, as I feel the pictures don't really do it justice.

This is something that has to happen rather quickly. There is a meeting Wednesday afternoon 4/20/11 with our current landlord and we need to know how people feel. There will also be a short discussion after the vote, if this passes, to determine if there is any kind of sweet-spot-deal to stay where we are. That is, if the current landlord wants to negotiate much lower than what we are paying now.

Previously did a field trip on 4/9. General assessment was that there would be work required to repair the driveway, loft structure and general cleanup. But otherwise, the bigger space and lower cost was a plus.


Directions to 5 Points Workshop:

  • From 565 (going East or West) exit to Oakwood Avenue.
  • Turn South to Andrew Jackson Way (intersects Oakwood immediately East of intersection of 565 and Oakwood).
  • Turn West to Stevens Ave.
  • Arrive at intersection of Schiffmann and Stevens.

Photographs of Shop: