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The 5pts shop including the loft is 4012 sqft (costing $850/mo). 1st Floor is 2660 sqft, Loft is 1352 sqft. It is larger than our current shop. It could eat our shop and still have room. | The 5pts shop including the loft is 4012 sqft (costing $850/mo). 1st Floor is 2660 sqft, Loft is 1352 sqft. It is larger than our current shop. It could eat our shop and still have room. | ||
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Previously did a field trip on 4/9. General assessment was that there would be work required to repair the driveway, loft structure and general cleanup. But otherwise, the bigger space and lower cost was a plus. | Previously did a field trip on 4/9. General assessment was that there would be work required to repair the driveway, loft structure and general cleanup. But otherwise, the bigger space and lower cost was a plus. | ||
| − | + | = Directions to 5 Points Workshop = | |
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* From 565 (going East or West) exit to Oakwood Avenue. | * From 565 (going East or West) exit to Oakwood Avenue. | ||
* Turn South to Andrew Jackson Way (intersects Oakwood immediately East of intersection of 565 and Oakwood). | * Turn South to Andrew Jackson Way (intersects Oakwood immediately East of intersection of 565 and Oakwood). | ||
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* Arrive at intersection of Schiffmann and Stevens. | * Arrive at intersection of Schiffmann and Stevens. | ||
| − | + | = Photographs of Shop = | |
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* [http://mrfranceisbacon.imgur.com/5pts MrFranceIsBacon's Photos] | * [http://mrfranceisbacon.imgur.com/5pts MrFranceIsBacon's Photos] | ||
* [http://throwthemind.com/gallery/index.php?/category/57 JimShoe's Photos] | * [http://throwthemind.com/gallery/index.php?/category/57 JimShoe's Photos] | ||
| − | + | = Financial Analysis = | |
| − | + | 203 Brown Street Shop - Cost per Month Analysis | |
| − | Financial Analysis | + | * Based on Bills in 2010, Average Per Month Consumption: |
| − | + | ** $5.29 in water | |
| − | + | ** $61.85 in gas | |
| − | + | ** $105.87 in electricity | |
| − | + | ** $70.49 in cable/internet | |
| − | + | ** $27.08 in insurance | |
| − | + | ** '''$270.58 is Total per Month''' | |
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* 5 Points Shop - Cost per Month Analysis/Estimates | * 5 Points Shop - Cost per Month Analysis/Estimates | ||
An estimate on the operating costs of the shop; assuming only the office, kitchen and lobby are heated and cooled (total of ~479 sqft), and at 0.5 cents/BTU/month and 24 BTUs to heat/cool 1 sqft, makes for $57.48/mo. Given the warehouse is uninsulated and will be cooled by a vent fan (currently 700 watts) or spot heated by personal space heaters (~1500 watts per person, assuming 3 people inside the garage in the winter) for 32 hours out of the week. We are looking at the most a ~$25/mo heating cost in the winter in the garage area. From historical billing data on the 203 Brown Street shop, we are looking at ~$50/mo to operate lights and gear. Assuming this value is the same for the 5 Points Location, we are looking at an operating cost of $135/mo. At a conservative estimate, per the proceedings of the 4/19 Move Meeting, the 5 Points operating costs can be assumed to be the same as the 203 Brown Street operating costs. | An estimate on the operating costs of the shop; assuming only the office, kitchen and lobby are heated and cooled (total of ~479 sqft), and at 0.5 cents/BTU/month and 24 BTUs to heat/cool 1 sqft, makes for $57.48/mo. Given the warehouse is uninsulated and will be cooled by a vent fan (currently 700 watts) or spot heated by personal space heaters (~1500 watts per person, assuming 3 people inside the garage in the winter) for 32 hours out of the week. We are looking at the most a ~$25/mo heating cost in the winter in the garage area. From historical billing data on the 203 Brown Street shop, we are looking at ~$50/mo to operate lights and gear. Assuming this value is the same for the 5 Points Location, we are looking at an operating cost of $135/mo. At a conservative estimate, per the proceedings of the 4/19 Move Meeting, the 5 Points operating costs can be assumed to be the same as the 203 Brown Street operating costs. | ||
Revision as of 15:56, 20 April 2011
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[hide]Notes on the 5Pts Shop
The 5pts shop including the loft is 4012 sqft (costing $850/mo). 1st Floor is 2660 sqft, Loft is 1352 sqft. It is larger than our current shop. It could eat our shop and still have room.
There is A/C and heat in the office. There is a small kitchen area. 2 bathrooms. There is also a sink in the loft. One of the bathrooms has a shower. There is no A/C/ heating unit in the actual warehouse area. But the current tenant says he was using a kerosene heater. We may be able to even negotiate this issue. Another con is a lack of insulation which could offset the savings in rent, but we can get a history of utility bills to assess that. (Note: Spacefelix; landlord stated on 4/19 tour that the office area was insulated to at least R-19, but the garage area was uninsulated)
Tomorrow afternoon (Tuesday, 4/19/11) we will be meeting at the current shop, at 6:30 pm, to take a field trip to the newly proposed shop (414 Stevens Ave, Huntsville, AL 35801, Yellowish Warehouse on the corner of Schiffmann and Stevens). Afterwards there will be a vote. I want to personally encourage everyone to come out and see the new place, as I feel the pictures don't really do it justice.
This is something that has to happen rather quickly. There is a meeting Wednesday afternoon 4/20/11 with our current landlord and we need to know how people feel. There will also be a short discussion after the vote, if this passes, to determine if there is any kind of sweet-spot-deal to stay where we are. That is, if the current landlord wants to negotiate much lower than what we are paying now.
Previously did a field trip on 4/9. General assessment was that there would be work required to repair the driveway, loft structure and general cleanup. But otherwise, the bigger space and lower cost was a plus.
Directions to 5 Points Workshop
- From 565 (going East or West) exit to Oakwood Avenue.
- Turn South to Andrew Jackson Way (intersects Oakwood immediately East of intersection of 565 and Oakwood).
- Turn West to Stevens Ave.
- Arrive at intersection of Schiffmann and Stevens.
Photographs of Shop
Financial Analysis
203 Brown Street Shop - Cost per Month Analysis
- Based on Bills in 2010, Average Per Month Consumption:
- $5.29 in water
- $61.85 in gas
- $105.87 in electricity
- $70.49 in cable/internet
- $27.08 in insurance
- $270.58 is Total per Month
- 5 Points Shop - Cost per Month Analysis/Estimates
An estimate on the operating costs of the shop; assuming only the office, kitchen and lobby are heated and cooled (total of ~479 sqft), and at 0.5 cents/BTU/month and 24 BTUs to heat/cool 1 sqft, makes for $57.48/mo. Given the warehouse is uninsulated and will be cooled by a vent fan (currently 700 watts) or spot heated by personal space heaters (~1500 watts per person, assuming 3 people inside the garage in the winter) for 32 hours out of the week. We are looking at the most a ~$25/mo heating cost in the winter in the garage area. From historical billing data on the 203 Brown Street shop, we are looking at ~$50/mo to operate lights and gear. Assuming this value is the same for the 5 Points Location, we are looking at an operating cost of $135/mo. At a conservative estimate, per the proceedings of the 4/19 Move Meeting, the 5 Points operating costs can be assumed to be the same as the 203 Brown Street operating costs.
