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− | + | === 2/22/10 Meeting === | |
+ | * Registered on the HSIS website. | ||
* Omegix has confirmed drug stores no longer carry disposable digital cameras | * Omegix has confirmed drug stores no longer carry disposable digital cameras | ||
* Have GPS Tracker | * Have GPS Tracker | ||
* Held first meeting on 2/22/2010 | * Held first meeting on 2/22/2010 | ||
− | + | === 2/24/10 === | |
− | + | * Spacefelix contacted Bill Brown who does balloon launches. He has expressed interest in helping the project. | |
+ | === 3/1/10 === | ||
** Accepted invitation from HAL5 President, [mailto:yohonlo@yahoo.com'''Yohan Lo'''] to give a 5-minute interest presentation at the 3/4/10 7pm HAL5 Meeting. Will see if we can raise funds, interest, contributions of equipment and people. | ** Accepted invitation from HAL5 President, [mailto:yohonlo@yahoo.com'''Yohan Lo'''] to give a 5-minute interest presentation at the 3/4/10 7pm HAL5 Meeting. Will see if we can raise funds, interest, contributions of equipment and people. | ||
** Finished initial design of balloon and payload and list of design considerations. Currently on drawing in the shop. Also have an initial shopping list and a target budget of $150.00. Will raise project money from Makers and HAL5. | ** Finished initial design of balloon and payload and list of design considerations. Currently on drawing in the shop. Also have an initial shopping list and a target budget of $150.00. Will raise project money from Makers and HAL5. | ||
− | + | === 3/4/10 HAL5 === | |
− | + | * HAL5 presentation by brimstone and omegix a success. Raised lots of positive interest in project. | |
+ | === 3/5/10 === | ||
** Event registration for competition has closed (ML256 is registered) | ** Event registration for competition has closed (ML256 is registered) | ||
− | ** Spacefelix contacted Jay on judge's duties and set up | + | ** Spacefelix contacted Jay on judge's duties and set up liaison. Also asked a few questions on the rules about minimum flight altitude requirements. Awaiting reply. |
** Sourced cheap weather balloons and helium. Have e-mailed Bill for further information on how to size balloons and the necessary gas quantities for our flight. | ** Sourced cheap weather balloons and helium. Have e-mailed Bill for further information on how to size balloons and the necessary gas quantities for our flight. | ||
− | + | === 3/6/10 Unclaimed Baggage === | |
− | + | * Shopping trip to Unclaimed Baggage came up with lots of potential cameras that may be compatible with CHDK. Will need another trip to confirm this. | |
+ | === 3/8/10 Meeting === | ||
** Ratmandu - GSM/GPS unit we had has a damaged capacitor on the power supply. At the very least it could be fixed by replacing the capacitor. But replacing the power supply altogether would be very difficult. | ** Ratmandu - GSM/GPS unit we had has a damaged capacitor on the power supply. At the very least it could be fixed by replacing the capacitor. But replacing the power supply altogether would be very difficult. | ||
** Team decided to use omegix's cell phone as the GPS and camera unit. He has requested an $80.00 collateral in the event the payload is lost or damaged. | ** Team decided to use omegix's cell phone as the GPS and camera unit. He has requested an $80.00 collateral in the event the payload is lost or damaged. | ||
** In the meanwhile, omegix will be reprogramming his cell phone to take pictures and report GPS positions. | ** In the meanwhile, omegix will be reprogramming his cell phone to take pictures and report GPS positions. | ||
** Spacefelix has put out a recommendation that purchases for equipment start the week of 3/15 so we can meet our 4/3 1st launch goal. | ** Spacefelix has put out a recommendation that purchases for equipment start the week of 3/15 so we can meet our 4/3 1st launch goal. | ||
− | + | === 3/15/10 Meeting === | |
** We now have three cameras at our disposal (see [https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/index.php/HSIS#Available_Materials available materials]) | ** We now have three cameras at our disposal (see [https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/index.php/HSIS#Available_Materials available materials]) | ||
** Matt is taking the Boost Mobile phone to the store to get it working | ** Matt is taking the Boost Mobile phone to the store to get it working | ||
** Next meeting will be a build meeting instead of a planning meeting | ** Next meeting will be a build meeting instead of a planning meeting | ||
− | + | === 3/22/10 Build Meeting === | |
** Matt got the phone working to report GPS position. | ** Matt got the phone working to report GPS position. | ||
** Ethan, Rohan & Satyam got the parachute and gondola system working. Tested out several cheap parachute configurations and a foam cooler for a total payload weight of 2 lbs. (foam cooler gondola and two parachutes weight 0.5 lbs., leaves 1.5 lbs. for electronics and heating elements). The best one has been two parachutes made out of the two sheet halves of a 30 gallon garbage bag with 2" diameter vent holes. May want to add a bigger or a third parachute since the drop tests still seem to come down rather fast and cooler has some cracks from impact of testing. Total estimated cost of gondola, parachutes, thermal control and insulation is $7.00. | ** Ethan, Rohan & Satyam got the parachute and gondola system working. Tested out several cheap parachute configurations and a foam cooler for a total payload weight of 2 lbs. (foam cooler gondola and two parachutes weight 0.5 lbs., leaves 1.5 lbs. for electronics and heating elements). The best one has been two parachutes made out of the two sheet halves of a 30 gallon garbage bag with 2" diameter vent holes. May want to add a bigger or a third parachute since the drop tests still seem to come down rather fast and cooler has some cracks from impact of testing. Total estimated cost of gondola, parachutes, thermal control and insulation is $7.00. | ||
− | ** Have | + | ** Have received link from Raymond on [http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/03/look_its_jersey_in_space.html Jersey Balloon Launch]. Using them as an example to follow for the development of our vehicle. They seem to have a very simple and lightweight setup. |
+ | * 03/22 night test resulted in a 4 hour battery life | ||
=== Future Actions=== | === Future Actions=== | ||
* 3/29 - Build session | * 3/29 - Build session | ||
** Matt will test how long the cell phone battery will last at normal temperatures, then at freezing temperatures in a freezer. Need to have at least 4 hours of run life in both conditions for a two-hour flight (we may be able to go with as low as 3 hours of runtime). | ** Matt will test how long the cell phone battery will last at normal temperatures, then at freezing temperatures in a freezer. Need to have at least 4 hours of run life in both conditions for a two-hour flight (we may be able to go with as low as 3 hours of runtime). | ||
− | ** Decide if we need to | + | ** Decide if we need to augment parachute system and get a higher location for drop testing. |
** Build up internal structure of gondola with camera window and EPP foam padding and insulation and thermal control. | ** Build up internal structure of gondola with camera window and EPP foam padding and insulation and thermal control. | ||
** Need to get the camera working. | ** Need to get the camera working. |
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Contents
[hide]Overview
This page is for the ML256 members who are participating in the Hackerspaces In Space (HSIS) competition. We have a Mailing List!
Calendar
- March 29, 2010: Build Meeting
- April 3, 2010: 8:00 - 16:00: First Test Launch and Recovery
- June 1, 2010: Official Contest Launch Window Opens
- August 31, 2010: Official Contest Launch Window Closes
- September 7, 2010: Deadline to Submit Results of Official Launch
- September 30, 2010: Announcement of Winners
Status
2/22/10 Meeting
- Registered on the HSIS website.
- Omegix has confirmed drug stores no longer carry disposable digital cameras
- Have GPS Tracker
- Held first meeting on 2/22/2010
2/24/10
- Spacefelix contacted Bill Brown who does balloon launches. He has expressed interest in helping the project.
3/1/10
- Accepted invitation from HAL5 President, Yohan Lo to give a 5-minute interest presentation at the 3/4/10 7pm HAL5 Meeting. Will see if we can raise funds, interest, contributions of equipment and people.
- Finished initial design of balloon and payload and list of design considerations. Currently on drawing in the shop. Also have an initial shopping list and a target budget of $150.00. Will raise project money from Makers and HAL5.
3/4/10 HAL5
- HAL5 presentation by brimstone and omegix a success. Raised lots of positive interest in project.
3/5/10
- Event registration for competition has closed (ML256 is registered)
- Spacefelix contacted Jay on judge's duties and set up liaison. Also asked a few questions on the rules about minimum flight altitude requirements. Awaiting reply.
- Sourced cheap weather balloons and helium. Have e-mailed Bill for further information on how to size balloons and the necessary gas quantities for our flight.
3/6/10 Unclaimed Baggage
- Shopping trip to Unclaimed Baggage came up with lots of potential cameras that may be compatible with CHDK. Will need another trip to confirm this.
3/8/10 Meeting
- Ratmandu - GSM/GPS unit we had has a damaged capacitor on the power supply. At the very least it could be fixed by replacing the capacitor. But replacing the power supply altogether would be very difficult.
- Team decided to use omegix's cell phone as the GPS and camera unit. He has requested an $80.00 collateral in the event the payload is lost or damaged.
- In the meanwhile, omegix will be reprogramming his cell phone to take pictures and report GPS positions.
- Spacefelix has put out a recommendation that purchases for equipment start the week of 3/15 so we can meet our 4/3 1st launch goal.
3/15/10 Meeting
- We now have three cameras at our disposal (see available materials)
- Matt is taking the Boost Mobile phone to the store to get it working
- Next meeting will be a build meeting instead of a planning meeting
3/22/10 Build Meeting
- Matt got the phone working to report GPS position.
- Ethan, Rohan & Satyam got the parachute and gondola system working. Tested out several cheap parachute configurations and a foam cooler for a total payload weight of 2 lbs. (foam cooler gondola and two parachutes weight 0.5 lbs., leaves 1.5 lbs. for electronics and heating elements). The best one has been two parachutes made out of the two sheet halves of a 30 gallon garbage bag with 2" diameter vent holes. May want to add a bigger or a third parachute since the drop tests still seem to come down rather fast and cooler has some cracks from impact of testing. Total estimated cost of gondola, parachutes, thermal control and insulation is $7.00.
- Have received link from Raymond on Jersey Balloon Launch. Using them as an example to follow for the development of our vehicle. They seem to have a very simple and lightweight setup.
- 03/22 night test resulted in a 4 hour battery life
Future Actions
- 3/29 - Build session
- Matt will test how long the cell phone battery will last at normal temperatures, then at freezing temperatures in a freezer. Need to have at least 4 hours of run life in both conditions for a two-hour flight (we may be able to go with as low as 3 hours of runtime).
- Decide if we need to augment parachute system and get a higher location for drop testing.
- Build up internal structure of gondola with camera window and EPP foam padding and insulation and thermal control.
- Need to get the camera working.
- Integrate and drop test whole system.
- Perform simulated find test on ground.
- Purchase weather balloons and helium lifting gas for a 2-lb. payload.
- Ethan is looking into hydrogen instead of helium.
- Ethan finding out if we need special licenses to move Hydrogen with a vehicle.
- Presentation to 2600 on HSIS - Let's reuse the HAL5 presentation, but flesh it out with our recent progress.
Contest Information
Materials
Available Materials
- GNX-5 (rebranded as Guidepoint) GSM(cellphone)/GPS tracking device
- Ratmando has the data sheet and pinouts of the current micro controller for this device. He's looking into replacing the micro controller with something like an ATMEGA644
- Ratmandu may have a camera
- Brimstone found out that if we take a 1M picture every 10 seconds, that it will fill 7.5GB in 2.5 hours
- We may be able to get cameras that work with CHDK at Unclaimed Baggage for less than retail cost.
- Omegix can volunteer his Android G1: HSIS/G1
- Asking HSIS team to come up with $80 that I'll hold on to until we retrieve my phone (and keep if we don't).
- The Little Buddy or the Boost Mobile solution would be cheaper, and just as easy Omegix 15:23, 11 March 2010 (CST)
- Asking HSIS team to come up with $80 that I'll hold on to until we retrieve my phone (and keep if we don't).
- Opticron found his Boost Mobile Phone. This combined with a camera taking automated pictures and our electrical needs are met.
- Cameras
- Bender
- 8MP, $85. Confirmed that it works with the special firmware
- 7.1MP, $55. Confirmed that it works with the special firmware
- Omegix
- 4MP, free. Will need CompactFlash memory if we want to find out about the firmware
- Bender
List of Potential Materials - Source & Pricing
Depending on design, we may not need many of these materials)
- Weather Balloons
- EBay has 8' Diameter Weather Balloons for $25.00 a balloon from a high-altitude balloon project from the Iowa Amateur Rocketry Group. However, these are oversized for our project. We want to minimize payload weight so we can buy smaller balloons and less lifting gas on the cheap.
- Helium
- Can be had from Air Liquide or our local Airgas shop: 191 Cochran Road Southwest, Huntsville, AL 35824-1105, (256) 772-5404
- Parachute (rocket model type) and streamers
- String / Fishing Line
- Styrofoam cooler, small
- Digital Camera: 5MP, preferably a Sony so we can use CHDK
- 1 x Memory Card, 8GB
- 1 x Memory Card, Cheap (size not important)
- Atmega Processor
- Free-spinning joints (like found in keychains)
- Bungee cords
- GPS
- Batteries (3 x D Cell)
- Radar Reflector (Is this something we will make, or purchase?)
- Shock Cushion for Bottom of payload
- Radio or Cell Phone
- Heat Source (like HotHands)
Human Resources
Bill Brown
Bill Brown has expressed interest in helping the project. He can provide balloons, lifting gas, a launch site (on a mountaintop near Hartselle), a ground station and some lightweight tracking payloads. All of it is for his company: High Altitude Research Corp. He invented the Near Space BalloonSat back in 1987. It was the first to take photos and videos in Near Space.
- Recommendations
- Use his lightweight tracking payloads instead of the GPS cell phone method.
- Use the Canon PowerShot series hacked with CHDK (Canon Hacker Development Kit) software.
- Fly the Flip video cam.
- Bought balloons for $20.00 each on eBay. Has receipt to prove it for costing.
- Media
- His YouTube Channel or YouTube search SpacePort Indiana
Others
- Rohan has worked on BalloonSat before
- Steve Boyer and Sarah Johnstone have worked on BalloonSats before as well
All Interested Peoples
- Brimstone
- Spacefelix (HSIS Event Board Liason)
- Omegix (Acting as local POC/Project Manager)
- Crashcart (requested no admin duties)
- bender
- Ratmandu
- Rohan
- Your name here
HAL5 Presentation Talking points
- Introduce ourselves
- Describe Makers Local 256
- Describe the contest
- Review rules
- Describe how we're going to compete
- If it's still at the shop, show that piece of paper we drew a diagram on
- Rustle up support for the project:
- People are welcome to join
- Donations of money and gear are appreciated
Sketches
Links
General Information
Balloon Trajectory
Articles