Talk:Bylaw Changes

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Notes on voting in new members from meeting on 2009-6-30:

  • Majority of non-abstaining nay votes will cause vote to fail
  • Minimum 2 nays to table membership vote
  • A membership vote can only be tabled once. A second tabling causes a membership vote to fail.
  • Given less than 2 nays, majority of non-abstaining yay votes will cause vote to pass

We may need to clarify whether this only happens at a meeting, or other venues/methods of voting. It seems we'll have different rules for several kinds of votes. Dickie 10:19, 1 July 2009 (CDT)

The wording could be changed here to be closer to RRO: In specific, by RRO, you can't Table something that has been voted on. Similarly you can't Withdraw a motion that has already gone to vote. You can 'Reconsider' a motion that has already failed. I would suggest changing this so that for Membership proposals/motions, 2 Nays results in a failed proposal that must be Reconsidered in X amount of time by any board member. Omegix 17:23, 1 July 2009 (CDT)

A Board member should be expelled if there is a majority vote from all members (as opposed to just a Board vote). Perhaps more control should given to the members instead of solely with the board. Open the power so the board is not the only influence. Members may want to have a say on who is becoming a member or changes to the facilities. This is one step to maintain a balance of power between the board and everyone else. PsychoAU 10:32, 10 July 2009 (CDT)

There is some balance of power already in place in that all members vote on who is on the board. This more or less makes the board a group of representatives for everyone. The current board of course is not this way due to how new the organization is, but will check at next elections. I do however agree with PsychoAU's suggestion of all members having a say in expelling a board member as they originally elected them. --strages 11:02, 10 July 2009 (CDT)

Roles Placed on the Secretary

I don't think it will be too much to handle once the bylaws are fixed. Right not its difficult to keep the rules straight. Taking notes, sending out emails to new applicants, these are easy enough tasks. But when you get into the Secretary has to call to vote things, and write proposes, these seem like things everyone can do. --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Membership application

The whole reason we had a vesting period for keyed access is because we needed to be sure the member was going be active and that the member was trustworthy enough. I just don't think you can fully express both of these things in the time it takes to become a member. Remember we don't only have the shops things in the building, but we have items from all members, which we need to protect. --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Resignation of board members

I think we need a rule, stating that board members need to come to at least half of board meeting. Something like that. Then we wouldn't have this problem. --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Section 2.2 - Board Members

I don't see why we need to say that the board will have 10 members. The original Bylaws say, no more than 10 and no less than the number of Board Officers. I just don't think its a good idea to limit ourselves to such a high number for board members. If something happens and we only have 9 members, what do we do? --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Section 2.4 - Active and Inactive Members

"Charter members are permanently active." Are they? So I can drop off the face of the earth for a year, then come back and have full benefits? It seems like there needs to be something limiting the abilities of inactive charter members. --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Section 3 - Resignation and Expulsion

"A member may be abruptly terminated without warning" by who? I'm guessing the board needs to have a meeting on this? Or would this be a 1 man job, then the board takes a look at the derision later? --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Section 1 - New Members

Correct me if I'm wrong. But 2 Nays and the vote comes up next meeting, even in there are 8 Yays? Also, it seems like we are still saying everyone on the board must vote, is that correct. If so, does everyone need to be at the meeting for this to happen? --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)

Section 2 - Board of Directors

What about abstaining? --Jimshoe 18:07, 13 July 2009 (CDT)