Talk:Proposal/0015-Rules and guidelines

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Crashcart's comments

  • These rules were painstakingly put together and advocated by someone who dislikes excessive rules. Please appreciate that he is trying to meet some people half-way here.
  • It is purposeful that these rules are not actually PART of the bylaws. This allows us to be much more flexible at revising these rules as the needs change. (Microsoft method: ship it now, patch it later)

Spacefelix's comments:

I currently recommend the addition of the below clauses on shop cleanliness and safety. This is a good start and I second Alii's comments as well. I appreciate the flexibility for these rules.

  • Recommend that a safety section be part of the "Guidelines" section stating that safety procedures and equipment ought to be followed and used.
    • In the spirit of keeping things brief and general, recommend the following wording (in alignment with Guidelines 1, "Do no harm"): "Think safe, act safely, take risks with the right precautions."
  • Add a 'No Tamper' rule to safety equipment for "Rules". Or alternatively, let the safety section of the "Guidelines" section above imply this.
  • Have a "KEEP IT CLEAN" added to Guidelines 5.
    • Pending the institution of transient spaces in the shop, adapt the rules/guidelines to require/advise that transient spaces be respected and used accordingly.

Alii's comments:

  • I think this is an important step in the growth of the shop, that these rules are well written and specific to our shop's needs.

Omegix's comments:

  • I think it would be good to add a minimum time limit to when you can use a powertool (anything with a moving part) in addition to the "not while intoxicated rule." I would rather deal with people bitching that they "have to wait X minutes after drinking a beer even though they're totally sober" than deal with mopping up blood and loosing our deposit. That being said, I hope this rule allows me to drink and solder at the same time, I don't really think of a soldering iron as a powertool, even though you gotta plug it in.
    • Per Drinking & Driving rules (the max example), you must be able to pass a breathalyzer test before operating a vehicle. From rules from the Aeromodeling Association, no drinking 24 hours before operation of an R/C aircraft. But for us, I believe if you can still speak, see and hear coherently as well as walk in a straight line, it ought to be okay. Otherwise, one should have the right to intervene if said person is very obviously drunk and waving around power tools. (*Me imagines the Maker drunk test in which one must be able to walk in a straight line while explaining Faraday's Law to the tune of Gilbert and Sullivan's "Pirates of Penzance"*) ~ Spacefelix

Templates from other hackerspaces

  • Freeside
    • (c) After providing the member with reasonable written notice, upon a determination by the board of directors that the member has engaged in conduct materially and seriously prejudicial to the interests or purposes of the corporation.
    • http://wiki.freesideatlanta.org/legal-documents/bylaws
  • Noisebridge ( https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Bylaws#6.6._Termination_of_Membership )
    • Section 6.6 - 6.8
  • Tog (http://www.tog.ie/constitution/)
    • 6. Any committee member can suspend any member or visitor in extreme circumstances. Suspended members or visitors will be denied access to any physical workspaces until the reason for their suspension has been resolved. An alternative to a suspension would be a short term timeout, with a suitable time set by the committee member.
    • 7. If a member wishes to leave the organisation, written notice must be given to the committee. Continued non-payment of the membership fee will be deemed to be the same as the receipt of a written notice to leave the organisation.
    • 8. A general meeting will be held if a full member is to be removed from the organisation.