Talk:Proposal/0015-Rules and guidelines

Crashcart's comments

• These rules were painstakingly put together and advocated by someone who dislikes excessive rules. Please appreciate that he is trying to meet some people half-way here.
• It is purposeful that these rules are not actually PART of the bylaws. This allows us to be much more flexible at revising these rules as the needs change. (Microsoft method: ship it now, patch it later)

Spacefelix's comments:

I currently recommend the addition of the below clauses on shop cleanliness and safety. This is a good start and I second Alii's comments as well. I appreciate the flexibility for these rules.

• Recommend that a safety section be part of the "Guidelines" section stating that safety procedures and equipment ought to be followed and used.
  • In the spirit of keeping things brief and general, recommend the following wording (in alignment with Guidelines 1, "Do no harm"): "Think safe, act safely, take risks with the right precautions."
• Add a 'No Tamper' rule to safety equipment for "Rules". Or alternatively, let the safety section of the "Guidelines" section above imply this.
• Have a "KEEP IT CLEAN" added to Guidelines 5.
  • Pending the institution of transient spaces in the shop, adapt the rules/guidelines to require/advise that transient spaces be respected and used accordingly.

Alii's comments:

• I think this is an important step in the growth of the shop, that these rules are well written and specific to our shop's needs.

Omegix's comments:

• I think it would be good to add a minimum time limit to when you can use a powertool (anything with a moving part) in addition to the "not while intoxicated rule." I would rather deal with people bitching that they "have to wait X minutes after drinking a beer even though they're totally sober" than deal with mopping up blood and loosing our deposit. That being said, I hope this rule allows me to drink and solder at the same time, I don't really think of a soldering iron as a powertool, even though you gotta plug it in.
  • Per Drinking & Driving rules (the max example), you must be able to pass a breathalyzer test before operating a vehicle. From rules from the Aeromodeling Association, no drinking 24 hours before operation of an R/C aircraft. But for us, I believe if you can still speak, see and hear coherently as well as walk in a straight line, it ought to be okay. Otherwise, one should have the right to intervene if said person is very obviously drunk and waving around power tools. (*Me imagines the Maker drunk test in which one must be able to walk in a straight line while explaining Faraday's Law to the tune of Gilbert and Sullivan's "Pirates of Penzance"*) ~ Spacefelix